{"id":2086,"date":"2021-12-29T19:07:29","date_gmt":"2021-12-29T19:07:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/?p=2086"},"modified":"2024-05-06T11:36:49","modified_gmt":"2024-05-06T09:36:49","slug":"kak-uznat-summu-vashih-nakoplenij-po-kollektivnym-kontraktam-per-perco-art-83-82","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/fr\/kak-uznat-summu-vashih-nakoplenij-po-kollektivnym-kontraktam-per-perco-art-83-82\/","title":{"rendered":"Comment conna\u00eetre le montant de votre \u00e9pargne au titre des contrats collectifs PER, PERCO, art. 83, 82"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pour lutter contre les milliards de retards de paiement inutiles sur les contrats d\u2019\u00e9pargne retraite compl\u00e9mentaire oubli\u00e9s ou non r\u00e9clam\u00e9s, le Parlement a adopt\u00e9 un projet de loi le 26 f\u00e9vrier 2021.<\/p>\n<p>Cette loi pr\u00e9voit :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A partir du 28 f\u00e9vrier 2021 : renforcement de l&#039;obligation pour les employeurs d&#039;informer les salari\u00e9s lors de leur d\u00e9part de l&#039;entreprise au travers d&#039;un document r\u00e9capitulant les accords d&#039;\u00e9pargne retraite conclus par l&#039;entreprise. D\u00e9sormais, ce document doit faire r\u00e9f\u00e9rence aux contrats PER, PERP, PERCO, Madelin, Prefon, CRH, Corem, Article 83, Article 82 et Article 39, Carem, Fonpel.<\/li>\n<li>Au plus tard le 28 ao\u00fbt 2022 : \u00e9change d\u2019informations entre les gestionnaires de convention d\u2019\u00e9pargne retraite et le Groupement d\u2019Int\u00e9r\u00eat Public (GPI) \u00ab Syndicat des Retraites \u00bb. Ceci s&#039;applique aux contrats PER, PERP, PERCO, Madelin, Prefon, CRH, Corem, article 83, article 82 et article 39, Carem, Fonpel.CMF.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Cet organisme doit :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>centraliser les donn\u00e9es collect\u00e9es dans le cadre des contrats d\u2019\u00e9pargne retraite compl\u00e9mentaire,<\/li>\n<li>puis les mettre \u00e0 disposition des particuliers via le site info-retraite.fr (actuellement destin\u00e9 uniquement \u00e0 obtenir des informations sur les retraites obligatoires) afin que les b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaires puissent retrouver les anciens contrats.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_82_2 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Contenu<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Basculer la 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href=\"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/fr\/kak-uznat-summu-vashih-nakoplenij-po-kollektivnym-kontraktam-per-perco-art-83-82\/#%d0%a6%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%82%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%bb%d0%b8%d0%b7%d0%b0%d1%86%d0%b8%d1%8f_%d0%b8%d0%bd%d1%84%d0%be%d1%80%d0%bc%d0%b0%d1%86%d0%b8%d0%b8_%d0%be_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%80%d0%b0%d1%85_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%be%d0%bb%d0%bd%d0%b8%d1%82%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8c%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b9\" >Centralisation des informations sur les contrats d&#039;\u00e9pargne retraite compl\u00e9mentaire<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/fr\/kak-uznat-summu-vashih-nakoplenij-po-kollektivnym-kontraktam-per-perco-art-83-82\/#%d0%9a%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%b8%d0%b5_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%80%d1%8b_%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b9_%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%b6%d0%bd%d0%be_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b9%d1%82%d0%b8\" >Quels types de contrats d\u2019\u00e9pargne retraite pouvez-vous trouver ?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/fr\/kak-uznat-summu-vashih-nakoplenij-po-kollektivnym-kontraktam-per-perco-art-83-82\/#%d0%a3%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b5_%d0%be%d0%b1%d1%8f%d0%b7%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%bd%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b8_%d0%b8%d0%bd%d1%84%d0%be%d1%80%d0%bc%d0%b8%d1%80%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%82%d1%8c_%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%b1%d0%be%d1%82%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%b0%d1%82%d0%b5%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%b9\" >Renforcer le devoir d\u2019information des employeurs<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%d0%9f%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%ba%d1%82%d0%b8%d1%87%d0%b5%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%b8%d0%b5_%d0%bf%d0%be%d1%81%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%b4%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b2%d0%b8%d1%8f\"><\/span>Les implications pratiques<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%d0%a6%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%82%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%bb%d0%b8%d0%b7%d0%b0%d1%86%d0%b8%d1%8f_%d0%b8%d0%bd%d1%84%d0%be%d1%80%d0%bc%d0%b0%d1%86%d0%b8%d0%b8_%d0%be_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%80%d0%b0%d1%85_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%be%d0%bb%d0%bd%d0%b8%d1%82%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8c%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b9\"><\/span>Centralisation des informations sur les contrats d&#039;\u00e9pargne retraite compl\u00e9mentaire<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Quelles organisations sont concern\u00e9es par cette obligation ?<\/p>\n<p>Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de gestion (compagnies d&#039;assurances, soci\u00e9t\u00e9s d&#039;investissement mutualiste, \u00e9tablissements de cr\u00e9dit, organismes de retraite professionnelle compl\u00e9mentaire, etc.) Elles doivent informer annuellement le Groupement d&#039;Int\u00e9r\u00eat Public (GPI) \u00ab Retraites Syndicales \u00bb des souscripteurs et b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaires des contrats.<\/p>\n<p>Le groupe centralisera les donn\u00e9es de toutes les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de gestion puis mettra gratuitement \u00e0 disposition l&#039;information \u00e0 tous les assur\u00e9s via le site info-retraite.fr.<br \/>\nEn cas de doute sur l&#039;identit\u00e9 de l&#039;abonn\u00e9, le groupement peut lui notifier l&#039;existence du contrat.<\/p>\n<p>Il existe d\u00e9j\u00e0 un site Web pour examiner les r\u00e9gimes de retraite obligatoires. Ainsi, l&#039;assur\u00e9 pourra disposer d&#039;informations sur les pensions obligatoires et compl\u00e9mentaires dans son compte personnel.<\/p>\n<p>Veuillez noter que les informations n\u2019incluent pas les contrats de retraite individuels.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%d0%9a%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%b8%d0%b5_%d0%b4%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%80%d1%8b_%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%bd%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%be%d0%bd%d0%bd%d1%8b%d1%85_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%bf%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b9_%d0%bc%d0%be%d0%b6%d0%bd%d0%be_%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b9%d1%82%d0%b8\"><\/span>Quels types de contrats d\u2019\u00e9pargne retraite pouvez-vous trouver ?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Cela concernera les nouveaux produits de retraite cr\u00e9\u00e9s conform\u00e9ment \u00e0 la loi PACTE. En outre, il est pr\u00e9vu que la liste compl\u00e8te des contrats concern\u00e9s soit d\u00e9termin\u00e9e par une r\u00e9solution suppl\u00e9mentaire.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2160\" src=\"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"940\" height=\"788\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7.jpg 940w, https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7-768x644.jpg 768w, https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7-696x583.jpg 696w, https:\/\/rouzade.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/7-501x420.jpg 501w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Selon nous et compte tenu de l&#039;objet de cette loi, les contrats collectifs qui ne sont pas directement sign\u00e9s par le b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire (PERCO, articles 83, article 82 et article 39) devraient \u00e9galement \u00eatre soumis \u00e0 cette obligation.<\/p>\n<p>Pour les contrats conclus individuellement, la logique est diff\u00e9rente, puisque l&#039;entreprise a un lien direct avec le b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire, ce qui limite les risques d&#039;oubli. Il n\u2019y a donc aucune certitude que la loi soit \u00e9tendue aux contrats Madelin ou PERP.<\/p>\n<p>Il faudra attendre la publication du d\u00e9cret pour en \u00eatre s\u00fbr.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"%d0%a3%d1%81%d0%b8%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b5_%d0%be%d0%b1%d1%8f%d0%b7%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%bd%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b8_%d0%b8%d0%bd%d1%84%d0%be%d1%80%d0%bc%d0%b8%d1%80%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%82%d1%8c_%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%b1%d0%be%d1%82%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%b0%d1%82%d0%b5%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%b9\"><\/span>Renforcer le devoir d\u2019information des employeurs<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Jusqu&#039;\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, les employeurs \u00e9taient tenus de pr\u00e9venir leurs salari\u00e9s lors de leur d\u00e9part de l&#039;entreprise des droits acquis au titre des sommes li\u00e9es \u00e0 l&#039;int\u00e9ressement, \u00e0 la participation, au PEE ou au PER (PERE).<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 compter du 28 f\u00e9vrier 2021, l&#039;employeur doit inclure dans le rapport de synth\u00e8se les informations relatives aux contrats de retraite au titre des articles 83, 82 et 39.<\/p>\n<p>Malgr\u00e9 l&#039;entr\u00e9e en vigueur du syst\u00e8me (28 f\u00e9vrier 2021), aucune r\u00e9glementation n&#039;a \u00e9t\u00e9 adopt\u00e9e pour fournir des informations d\u00e9taill\u00e9es sur les nouveaux produits concern\u00e9s, pour communiquer aux salari\u00e9s les coordonn\u00e9es de la compagnie d&#039;assurance concern\u00e9e ou pour pr\u00e9voir des sanctions en cas de non-respect du syst\u00e8me. conformit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>On peut s&#039;interroger sur l&#039;efficacit\u00e9 de cette disposition au-del\u00e0 de la simple notification au salari\u00e9 de l&#039;existence d&#039;un contrat. En effet, en cas de d\u00e9c\u00e8s ou au jour du d\u00e9part \u00e0 la retraite, il ne sera pas simple de retrouver le document fourni \u00e0 la sortie de l&#039;entreprise.<br \/>\nEn pratique, il est plus probable que disposer d&#039;une information sur un site d&#039;information retraite permettra effectivement \u00e0 l&#039;assur\u00e9 (ou \u00e0 son b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire) de conna\u00eetre ses droits et donc de limiter les risques d&#039;oubli.<\/p>\n<p>Source<a href=\"https:\/\/fidnet.fidroit.fr\/document\/52498\"> https:\/\/fidnet.fidroit.fr\/document\/52498<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D\u00e9couvrez le montant de votre \u00e9pargne au titre des contrats collectifs PER, PERCO, art. 83, 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